Self-submits: there are a whole range of opinions on this
one! A self-submit is when you scan (or
scour) the casting websites (in NYC, there is NY Casting – or LA Casting on the
west coast; Actors’ Access, and Casting Networks, to name a few) and they often
have “ads” in which a casting director/company/filmmaker would post a breakdown
for actors (parents) to submit themselves for a role. These can range from print opportunities to
student films to indie productions that want to save money by doing the casting
themselves – and one friend (shout out!) submitted her son for a role in a film
that was released at Sundance and received wide acclaim – score! So honestly, there can be some cool stuff out
there. We have done some self-submits in
the past that have resulted in auditions and bookings, and my daughter has
worked on two Columbia MFA films, which were great experiences. There are also casting calls for extra work,
which I addressed in a previous post. Allegedly, politicians have used casting websites (or companies) to fill
audiences when necessary. I’m thinking
the actors probably signed NDAs (non-disclosure agreements: they cannot talk
about it).
Anyway, should you self-submit? My first nugget of advice is: always ask your
agent or manager. Some agents and
managers may feel strongly about this, and you should know their opinion right
off the bat. Personally, we tried a few
when we first started, and I sort of gave up looking. Especially when your kids are older and have
more school and extra-curricular commitments, it might not be worth it to do
castings, auditions, and jobs in addition to what your agents send you. The student films my daughter worked on were
in the summer, and didn’t interrupt any of her scheduled activities. I found the students to be professional and
kind to us, and I really enjoyed those experiences. My daughter did, too. They didn’t involve any pay, so I didn’t need
to worry about working out financial concerns with agents and overall, which
helped in my decision whether or not to submit.
When I discussed extra work, I said it might not come with the type of
experience that can make your child a better actor (and some of you disagreed
and shared experiences that were beneficial to their kids, and that’s cool too –
but you know my opinion on the subject).
These WERE experiences that were beneficial to my daughter learning to
take direction, be patient, and persevere.
If you don’t have agents, self-submissions are probably your
only way to get into the business. And
the following advice can apply to everyone.
My general opinion on self-submission is this: beware. I often think there is a reason things are
open to self-submit and not (necessarily) going through agencies. Sometimes totally legitimate projects are looking for really
specific people that agencies might not be able to find: unicycling
skateboarders with punk-rock looks might be too specific for agents to find, so
casting is casting (tee hee) a wider net in hopes of finding that specific
person.
But, often, there may be something to the job that agents aren’t
really going to like. Let me post one
that I screen-shot for you to examine.
Can you see anything here that an agent wouldn’t like?
The first thing that may jump out at you is the rate. The range is WAY off. $250 for a commercial session fee is WAY
below the going SAG rate. It’s about
$100 more than an extra rate for a TV program, but about $350 less than the
going session fee for a SAG commercial principal. If your child would be on set for more than 2
hours, that rate pays less than print.
And that’s ridiculous for a “commercial.” Anyone can look up the SAG rates to make comparisons between what these breakdowns offer versus industry standards.
Are you thinking, “But what about that buyout fee?” It’s still SIGNIFICANTLY lower (and I mean,
lower by like FIVE FIGURES) than what a national SAG commercial could gross for
your child. That alone is really
suspect. AND, how many kids might they
shoot? Two? Twenty?
What are your chances of ACTUALLY getting the buyout fee? What’s going on here, I’m wondering? It just doesn’t sound like a commercial for a
tech giant with oodles to spend on their advertising – something like that
would usually go through a major agency, be SAG, and… show all of that in its
pay. Google is not a mom-and-pop local
shop looking to buy some time on cable channels to try and expand their business. This is a HUGE red flag. Now, you may not know all of this if you are
new to the business – but that’s why I’m here, right? This must be something like a spec-commercial,
which an independent group may be doing to try to pitch to Google to get their
attention and hopefully maybe somehow convince them to use the commercial or
use their agency.
But there is an even worse problem with this project. And it’s really a potential deal-breaker for
future jobs for your child. Really GOOD
future jobs, like the ones I described above – that a real Google commercial
should be.
Can you find it?
One word: PERPETUITY.
Perpetuity means FOREVER. You are
giving that group the right to use your child FOREVER for a tech ad. In addition to that strange money
configuration, there is no way an agent would touch that. No agent would give a company the right to
use your child forever. Especially for a
tech company! And here’s why.
Tech companies – and pharma companies, I’ll add – usually demand
exclusivity. That means your child could
not appear in ANY ads, print or commercial, for another tech company for…
PERPETUITY. Forever. That is what’s called a conflict, and a
company does not want your child to be a face of some product and… also their
product. They see your child and is it
for Samsung or LG? No. They want consumers to associate the visuals
with their product and their product alone. If your child was pitching a tablet two weeks ago, the next tablet company would not want anything to do with your child for a long time. You know that guy who is in the cell phone commercials saying, “Can you
hear me now?” Why did he show up now for
some other wireless company? He is no
longer under the terms of his conflict.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH MONEY THAT GUY EARNED… and now earns AGAIN
by being in that second campaign? I’m going to
guess no less than seven figures. (If
anyone knows the guy and I’m wrong, please correct me…but if I’m wrong, it’s
probably closer to eight figures than six.)
A SAG commercial is going to pay actors in 13-week
segments. And maybe even DOUBLE scale if
it’s a product that would demand exclusivity for usage. And they need to keep paying you in 13-week
segments while that commercial airs. AND
another tech company won't even want an actor for a period of time (like one
to three years) beyond the time the commercial airs. That’s often why a project might pay double
scale – they know that their ad would limit earning opportunities for similar projects.
My daughter made it to the commercial and print callbacks (same
ad campaign but two different casting directors) for a major tech company a few
years ago. The commercial would have
paid double SAG scale and the print had a payout of – wait for it -- $30,000.
Can you see why I wouldn’t touch that particular self-submit
with a ten-foot pole? Or a hundred-foot
pole? (Sorry for the cliché – it seems
like that kind of day in my world. I’m
sitting on my couch in my PJs writing a mommy-blog with Real Housewives on in
the background. If that’s not a cliché,
I don’t know what is.)
Bottom line: my advice for self-submits is this: BEWARE.
Scrutinize the terms. Back to
what I said before: there is probably a reason why this is not going through
agents. Keep your self-submissions to
the guidelines of your agent, if you have one, and really, really, really
consider what’s probably wrong with the project.
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